TD Coupe Twin Cam Rally Car
Exactly right Gene. Most guys that go with the ladder
bar setup rose joint both ends of the ladder bar.
A standard gem diff assembly moves straight up & down,
same as a 4 link. Hence why the end of the torque tube
mount is rubber, so it can move telescopicly (moves
forwards & backwards).
If you have a rigid mounted ladder bar it trys to move
the diff in an arch & because the mounting point(pivot)
is different to the trailing arm mounts. It will
'bind up' when going through it's travel path.
On my setup I copied an end of a nissan patrol radius
arm on the lathe & welded it to the end of the ladder
bar. Rubber mounted & performs exactly the same
as a patrol arm. This way the ladder bar can still move telescopicly
according to the position of the diff. The mounting point
I made as close to the lower arm mounting points as
possible. The same length but 5mm higher.
A 4 link would be soooo much easier!
bar setup rose joint both ends of the ladder bar.
A standard gem diff assembly moves straight up & down,
same as a 4 link. Hence why the end of the torque tube
mount is rubber, so it can move telescopicly (moves
forwards & backwards).
If you have a rigid mounted ladder bar it trys to move
the diff in an arch & because the mounting point(pivot)
is different to the trailing arm mounts. It will
'bind up' when going through it's travel path.
On my setup I copied an end of a nissan patrol radius
arm on the lathe & welded it to the end of the ladder
bar. Rubber mounted & performs exactly the same
as a patrol arm. This way the ladder bar can still move telescopicly
according to the position of the diff. The mounting point
I made as close to the lower arm mounting points as
possible. The same length but 5mm higher.
A 4 link would be soooo much easier!
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Wouldn't that depend on how much sideways movement the joint at the chassis mount would have? The standard setup is pretty good with movement on all angles. It's the panhard rod that lets it down.Gene FJ20DEBT wrote:single ladder bar works exactly the same as a stock diff though. only difference would be the 3inches or so offsetredzone (coxy) wrote:The stock rear end would have to handle better than the ladder bar due to articulation wouldn't it? Most guys with ladder bars are only doing straight line stuff..
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Even if its less, its not something u need or want a lot of, Panhard rod (and all you other mounting) will only alow so much anyways, which would be in the realms of a single ladder.zep wrote:Wouldn't that depend on how much sideways movement the joint at the chassis mount would have? The standard setup is pretty good with movement on all angles. It's the panhard rod that lets it down.Gene FJ20DEBT wrote:single ladder bar works exactly the same as a stock diff though. only difference would be the 3inches or so offsetredzone (coxy) wrote:The stock rear end would have to handle better than the ladder bar due to articulation wouldn't it? Most guys with ladder bars are only doing straight line stuff..
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The rules regarding the wheels Zep:
- The rim diameter may be increased or decreased
by 2 inches from the original standard fitment.
- For the width up to 7.5 inch for engines up to
1600cc.
They are just old BMW E30 14' rims.
The ladder bar would only have half of the lateral
movement a standard torque tube mount would
have, because the ladder bar is rose jointed at the
diff housing there for having another pivot point.
- The rim diameter may be increased or decreased
by 2 inches from the original standard fitment.
- For the width up to 7.5 inch for engines up to
1600cc.
They are just old BMW E30 14' rims.
The ladder bar would only have half of the lateral
movement a standard torque tube mount would
have, because the ladder bar is rose jointed at the
diff housing there for having another pivot point.
Flaps can be too big sometimes yeah
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It will be tearing through a forrest near
you soon. This is the best it will ever
look It was built to be driven hard
& fast
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