TD Coupe Twin Cam Rally Car

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Post by Gem WRC »

Exactly right Gene. Most guys that go with the ladder
bar setup rose joint both ends of the ladder bar.

A standard gem diff assembly moves straight up & down,
same as a 4 link. Hence why the end of the torque tube
mount is rubber, so it can move telescopicly (moves
forwards & backwards).
If you have a rigid mounted ladder bar it trys to move
the diff in an arch & because the mounting point(pivot)
is different to the trailing arm mounts. It will
'bind up' when going through it's travel path.

On my setup I copied an end of a nissan patrol radius
arm on the lathe & welded it to the end of the ladder
bar. Rubber mounted & performs exactly the same
as a patrol arm. This way the ladder bar can still move telescopicly
according to the position of the diff. The mounting point
I made as close to the lower arm mounting points as
possible. The same length but 5mm higher.

A 4 link would be soooo much easier! :(
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Post by Gem WRC »

The only reason I went for the Hilux diff
was for a taller ratio CWP. The 3.9 is
just sh*t for rallying. Never use 5th gear
& 4th only sometimes.
Also for a proper LSD option & so I have
a strong diff when I put the Honda S2000
engine in later on :D
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Post by Gem WRC »

Progress report:
- Driving lights mounted &
wired up. 55W HID lights for all driving lights
& the headlights too.
- Rims back today powdercoated white

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Post by zep »

Gene FJ20DEBT wrote:
redzone (coxy) wrote:The stock rear end would have to handle better than the ladder bar due to articulation wouldn't it? Most guys with ladder bars are only doing straight line stuff..
single ladder bar works exactly the same as a stock diff though. only difference would be the 3inches or so offset
Wouldn't that depend on how much sideways movement the joint at the chassis mount would have? The standard setup is pretty good with movement on all angles. It's the panhard rod that lets it down.
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Post by zep »

Dude, this car is fantastic! What are the rules on wheels?
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Post by Gene FJ20DEBT »

zep wrote:
Gene FJ20DEBT wrote:
redzone (coxy) wrote:The stock rear end would have to handle better than the ladder bar due to articulation wouldn't it? Most guys with ladder bars are only doing straight line stuff..
single ladder bar works exactly the same as a stock diff though. only difference would be the 3inches or so offset
Wouldn't that depend on how much sideways movement the joint at the chassis mount would have? The standard setup is pretty good with movement on all angles. It's the panhard rod that lets it down.
Even if its less, its not something u need or want a lot of, Panhard rod (and all you other mounting) will only alow so much anyways, which would be in the realms of a single ladder. :wink:
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Post by Gem WRC »

The rules regarding the wheels Zep:

- The rim diameter may be increased or decreased
by 2 inches from the original standard fitment.
- For the width up to 7.5 inch for engines up to
1600cc.

They are just old BMW E30 14' rims.

The ladder bar would only have half of the lateral
movement a standard torque tube mount would
have, because the ladder bar is rose jointed at the
diff housing there for having another pivot point.
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Post by Gem WRC »

All the brakes are now mounted & all
functional! :D
Bolted up the rear calipers today.

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She also reversed out of the shed under her
own 'huge' power today. The first time she
has seen the sun since January. It drives
& runs but I still have a few little jobs to do:

- Mount the sumpgard
- Cut the mudflaps down
- Mount the harness belts

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Post by luke20 »

I love your big meaty flaps.... Oh, I mean it looks awesome. Too good to get dirty. :wink:
I've joined the dark side.......... Toyota AE86.

Also bought my Gem back... awwwww shieeeetttt
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Post by Gem WRC »

Flaps can be too big sometimes yeah :wink:

It will be tearing through a forrest near
you soon. This is the best it will ever
look :D It was built to be driven hard
& fast :P
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Post by Cazz »

Please bring this down to the Mt Crawford events in SA!
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Post by Gem WRC »

Sounds like a good idea Cazz :)

I might look at doing the new Classic Adelaide
tarmac rally. My old man & I did that for
6 years until they went broke & canceled
it. I wonder what the new one will be like?
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Post by Cazz »

Ah yea, I think that was only about a month ago unless I'm mistaken. I didn't go this year cause I was away, but I'll be going in the future! Would be good to see you out there. :D
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Post by DELSGM »

wow would love to see it race
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