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 Post subject: Brock's ZZ Prototype article (400kb in total)
PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:29 pm 
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I got this article from Ebay and thought I may share it with you all. I have better scans, but for this purpose you can read it.

I put in off topic - cos I didnt know where to put it

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:31 pm 
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nice find... 17sec quarters... :)

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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:39 pm 
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i love those seats!!!

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It quotes that the block is the same as the diesel version.. Would this mean if you have a diesel gemini, the twin cam head would be a possible replacement?

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It quotes that the block is the same as the diesel version.. Would this mean if you have a diesel gemini, the twin cam head would be a possible replacement?


I was thinking that. Daniel, have you been able to confirm this at all?

Interestingly, the rego number on that car has recently been in use (according to VicRoads). I wonder if that car is still floating around somewhere....

Brocky?? Museum? Rick Ludgate???? hmmmm.


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POIDA can you confirm

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i think they mean like weight/capacity wise, the diesel motor isn't a twin cam i dont think?

elky confirm?

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It has the same bore and stroke dimensions but that's the end of it. Nothing interchanges. The 4FB1 diesel engine mounts are located in a different position on the block and the G180W mounts are bolted to the engine in the same spot. thus the diesel cross members suits nicely.

If the diesel engine can be called alike another Isuzu engine, the closest I'd liken it to would be a 4ZB1 engine. Both use a belt driven cam where all the G series used timing chains.

The G180W block is most like a G180 pushrod engine from an early Isuzu vehicle. It also has some slight similarities to the Hillman Hunter engine and the G180Z engine but doesn't mean these engines could be transformed into a twin cam.

If you want a twin cam engine, buy a twin cam engine. There is no short cut.


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That document more or less verifies the fact that Brock and the HDT company had every intent to drive Jim Faneco out of business so they could themselves begin to produce a performance Gemini without any competition. One important thing about the HDT venture is the lack of competition. They had a monopoly market. at the time there was no other manufacturer making high performance cars like HDT did. You couldn't even buy HDT stickers, spare parts or accesories without providing proof you actually owned a HDT car. One wonders about the story of HDT making a fuss because the CDT logo was 'too alike to the HDT logo'.


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Can anyone tell what magazine that was out of - I'd be interested in trying to obtain a decent copy of it.

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They didn't end up doing it becuase of cost and a bloke did it over here and it has the lic HDT. Car was in good condition now it is in really poor condition broken wing bad paint..

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lol @ 17 sec quarters



this coming from someone who has never been the strip and doesn't want to be laughed at.....


Back then that was quick it would beaten any 6 on the road and quite possibly V8's.

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Can anyone tell what magazine that was out of - I'd be interested in trying to obtain a decent copy of it.

Kev


Shall chase it up


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