Stroked G series to 2.6L ????

[meanzah]

simple: Whoever sold him the motor has told him it's a 2.6, so he's now tring to on-sell that motor as a 2.6.

My advice: Don't buy it

[Germinator]

I'd just like to set the record straight, the Isuzu G series engine began with a licenced copy of the Hillman Minx engine they named the G130 engine. The family of G series engines is based on that first engine and goes as follows:
G130, G150, G160, G161, pushrod non crossflow engines
G161Z, G180Z, G200Z SOHC crossflow engines
G161W, G180W, G200W DOHC cross flow engines.

There were two different types of engine blocks, the early G130, G150, G160, G161 block that had a pushrod non crossflow head first made in cast iron then later in aluminium then that same basic block was used to make the G161W, G180W, G200W (twincam) versions. A new engine block casting was made for the G161Z, G180Z, G200Z SOHC engines.

It's unreasonable to say just because a block was redesigned that the engine is a different family. The underlying feature that ties all these engines as a family is the crankshaft layout were all very similar. The crankshaft bearings all cross reference across the whole range of G series engines.

[BlueGem]

I'd just like to set the record straight, the Isuzu G series engine began with a licenced copy of the Hillman Minx engine they named the G130 engine. The family of G series engines is based on that first engine and goes as follows:
G130, G150, G160, G161, pushrod non crossflow engines
G161Z, G180Z, G200Z SOHC crossflow engines
G161W, G180W, G200W DOHC cross flow engines.

There were two different types of engine blocks, the early G130, G150, G160, G161 block that had a pushrod non crossflow head first made in cast iron then later in aluminium then that same basic block was used to make the G161W, G180W, G200W (twincam) versions. A new engine block casting was made for the G161Z, G180Z, G200Z SOHC engines.

It's unreasonable to say just because a block was redesigned that the engine is a different family. The underlying feature that ties all these engines as a family is the crankshaft layout were all very similar. The crankshaft bearings all cross reference across the whole range of G series engines.

You forgot the g---s motors.

[redzone (coxy)]

I'd just like to set the record straight, the Isuzu G series engine began with a licenced copy of the Hillman Minx engine they named the G130 engine. The family of G series engines is based on that first engine and goes as follows:
G130, G150, G160, G161, pushrod non crossflow engines
G161Z, G180Z, G200Z SOHC crossflow engines
G161W, G180W, G200W DOHC cross flow engines.

There were two different types of engine blocks, the early G130, G150, G160, G161 block that had a pushrod non crossflow head first made in cast iron then later in aluminium then that same basic block was used to make the G161W, G180W, G200W (twincam) versions. A new engine block casting was made for the G161Z, G180Z, G200Z SOHC engines.

It's unreasonable to say just because a block was redesigned that the engine is a different family. The underlying feature that ties all these engines as a family is the crankshaft layout were all very similar. The crankshaft bearings all cross reference across the whole range of G series engines.

FFS germy, the blocks and heads do not interchange between the gemini type motors and the hillman type, small parts like crank bearings do, that doesnt mean they're the same engine family! What do you think G stands for? Its Gasoline! It doesnt mean they're the same family!! 4Z motors have more in common with a G161Z than a G161!!!

[Germinator]

...so does that make a G161W a non G series engine seeing it sits on the same block as a G160 engine??? G161W, G180W and G200W are all G series engines as well yet they all based on the G130, G150, G160 and G161 engine blocks.

The G-Z engines are the odd ones out if the crunch comes because they were a new block design! How can we detract from the fact they were last in the design chain and then discard the original 20 years of engine production that WERE first called the G engines?

The G-Z engines were circa 1974 and onward.

If G means gasoline what does the C series engine stand for? Ciesel?

While we are on it, the 1964 Bellett was optioned with a C180 (1.8 litre) diesel engine, the same engine family as the C190 and C223 diesel engines used in the first series of Rodeo and Jackaroos.

Like it or not it is the same common family of engines even though a different block casting was used for the SOHC design.

There is a list of engines here but I can tell you it's in no way a complete list. I can see quite a few engines missing from the list especially all the engines used in the Isuzu cars prior to the mid 70's. Not only those but a number of engines from the later range are also missing. The diesel for instance, the C180 isn't listed, the 4FA1, 4FD1, 4FG1, the turbo variants of these same engines are missing as well, as is the C223-T engine that was common enough here in the Rodeo and Jackaroo. I still own and can show you 4FD1 and 4FC1-T engines if that is what it needs to prove they exist.

Just as an interesting point, the C series diesel was designed on the same crankshaft and block spacing as the G series engine! The 4F diesel series shares the same piston and crank layout as the 4Z petrol engines do.

[GEMWRC]

Get back on topic Germy , make your own thread if you wanna teach history lessons

[stock_gem]

May as well start a new thread with all that info in it, I was intrigued by it. .

[redzone (coxy)]

all i'm saying, is that calling a G180Z and a G180W the same engine family, all because they use G at the start of their engine code, is f*#cking stupid...

[Germinator]

May as well start a new thread with all that info in it, I was intrigued by it. .

Agreed, split the thread please mods/admin...

[Encyclopedia Ronnie]

i said yes cause it prolly is possible with lots of maths time and money lol

[archangel62]

Let's all go put G161Z heads on 4ZE1s to make them go faster it'll definitely work!

P.S. That wasn't a shot at anyone on here! Just on that guy and his amazing stroker G series...

[F3ARED]

Lets just all buy VL Turbos and start speaking cuz-bro-speak.

Kinda sad considering im a wog and i find the way some people act completely sad lol

[cdtpf60]

damn you nick i almost spat my mid morning cuppa allover my screen........LOL

[robbbbo666]

back on the argument i was going to buy a Gemini from a guy in Phillip island he was claiming to have stroked a 2ltr to a 2.6 ltr also, this was also with gear box reco 4.11 diff gears and slotted rotors all round with electronic fuel pump

And this thing did get up and go, unfortunately he sold it on me to the mechanics while he was getting the carbi re-jetted but he definitely said it was stroked to a 2.6 ltr,

[GEMWRC]

oh the 2.6L G200z , dunno if thats is possible man, he couldnt provide proof in anyway of how it was possible , not even a description .. basically claimed it was 2.6L without even trying to prove it....