304 to gem

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

- anyone done it?
- are the sumps a front or rear sump?
- Stock Sump fit in a gem as is? or need modifying?
Cheers

[redzone (coxy)]

Lol, can't believe you're posting this!

They are front sump, you need a hq sump for a gem.

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

yeah i was about to ask which of the early holdens had the rear sumps.
i goggle imaged for them but could get a good enough angle to see how the sumps were.
cheers maing.

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

same block/sump patern all the way to VT commo?

[sly380]

Correct.

The sumps are cheap as s*#t off eBay but the oil pic ups are a little harder to come by.

what's the plan??

[TURGEM]

same block/sump patern all the way to VT commo?

Yep.... Vt was the last of the aussie V8

[Anthony_Gemini]

Are early 308 carby blocks the same as the injected 304 blocks?

[sly380]

Not really. Most parts are interchangeable but the blocks do vary on design.

Late vs series 2 to the end of production are hailed as the strongest and have the best oil delivery but I think alot of it is hype really

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

Correct.

The sumps are cheap as s*#t off eBay but the oil pic ups are a little harder to come by.

what's the plan??

awsome.

im thinking if i find an SS cheap enough, for the drift gem, maybe swap it out with the D1.

cheers guys

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

or possibly the *puke* 3800.
i dont really wanna chop the car up much which i think the 5L will need

[Anthony_Gemini]

Not really. Most parts are interchangeable but the blocks do vary on design.

Late vs series 2 to the end of production are hailed as the strongest and have the best oil delivery but I think alot of it is hype really

I didn't think they were the same ,, aren't the later model blocks 4 bolt

[Jonno]

Why are you even contemplating a 5L?

Answer is clearly LS1 or 1uz. Grind weld skid

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

costs involved. 304 i could buy a whole SS that would have everything i need for less then what i could get just the LS engine on its own for.

1UZ would be fine, but again i could get a whole SS for the same price as a manual box and clutch to suit the 1UZ


3800 is looking more likely for easy of swap

[Anthony_Gemini]

What are you plans for it? Burnout car? IMO an old tired ss motor won't last ..

[Gene FJ20DEBT]

my drift car.
my old tired 4zd1 has lasted along time getting the s*#t flogged out of it.. so a lazy 5L should be fine